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I have a prescription for Hydrocodone 7.5/750 apap. I don't like taking pain killers at all, but the severity of the injury to my neck leaves me with little options. I only take them before bed to help with relaxation while I'm sleeping. I'm most concerned with the continued use of the Tylenol because I'm already on a prescribed regiment of Ibuprofen. Prolonged use of both can and will likely cause damage to my liver, heart, and kidneys. Also, I like to enjoy a beer here and there, and am terribly afraid of having a beer while on a regiment of either Tylenol or Ibuprofen. So I haven't had a good ole beer in a long time.It's extremely difficult to get a schedule 2 narcotic over my schedule 3, and I'm not sure I even want it because I'm unaware of the dosages. The 7.5mg of Hydrocodone once a night seems to do me well enough to sleep more comfortably than without it, so staying at that level is fine just don't want the Tylenol.Is there any way I can remove the Tylenol from the Hydrocodone? I read a post where someone noted Hydrocodone is more soluble in water than Tylenol and to crush the pills, put them in 3x the pill power of warm water, refrigerate, and strain through a filter. The contents left in the filter would be mostly Tylenol while the fluid strained would be most water and Hydrocodone.Seeing as how I would never experiment with this procedure with anything more than one pill, I assume I can't hurt myself because at the very least it won't strain anything and I'll be taking one pill as usual.Anyone know if this is accurate? Or another safe, simple way to extract the Tylenol.Please don't assume I'm a dope head looking for a safe high, because I very much hate pain medication. I have two 3mm herniated discs in my low back that I've had since I was 17 (4 years now) that I never take pain meds for, I fight the pain because it's safer and keeps me feeling healthy not being medicated. I just recently came down with 3 1mm bulged discs in my neck which were a direct result of poor posture brought on by Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. This pain is ridiculous in comparison to my low back, and greatly affects my left hand. I'm afraid of needles because my mother died of AIDS, so don't accuse me of wanting to shoot it up (this was an accusation on the other post).I'm just a 21 yr old father who can't enjoy time with his child because of the pain and injuries he's suffered. I don't want to add liver failure to my list of problems while trying to seek comfort from the pain.Any help is appreciated, even if the help is from a chemist who says"don't do this, it's not safe". If you aren't a chemist, or in the medical field with knowledge that extracting the two aren't safe don't state what you don't know.I'm extracting a comment in my information that is pertinent to those telling me to ask my doctor for stronger meds.It's extremely difficult to get a schedule 2 narcotic over my schedule 3

[Hmmm]

don't do this, it's not safe. I'm not a chemist, but most of the extraction methods for this sort of thing involve ammonia and lighter fluid, though for this kind it might be as simple as soaking the pills in water for awhile. On the other hand, a WAY better idea is to ask your doctor about the medications he or she has you on. Otherwise, get a second opinion.

[ctelly22]

Why not just ask your doctor to prescribe another med like oxycodone or morphine.

[janeo_wit]

It's not unsafe, it just won't work. It would be like trying to get the caffeine out of coffee grounds. It just doesn't work like that.Yes, prolonged use of ibuprofen or acetaminophen can cause damage to the liver and kidneys, but not at reasonable doses. Unless you already have problems with those organs, it's unlikely to cause damage to your heart and liver. With your medication you can safely take five hydrocodone/apap a day. And you can take 2400mg of ibuprofen a day.As for the alcohol, the general thought is that an otherwise healthy man can have 1-2 drinks (that's one can of beer, one glass of wine, or one shot) and 2800mg of acetaminophen daily. That's three of your painkillers.If you are still really concerned, you can ask you doctor to try Darvon or Ultram, they are both schedule 4 so they have the same regulations as a 3. They just don't work very well.But medically, there's no reason to stop doing what you are doing and start having a beer every once in a while.Did you know that APAP stands for N-Acetyl-Para-Amino-Phenol, and name acetaminophen is the combination of the first few letters of each chemical compound?